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I printed another file that replaces the whole jump pad, but the part that attaches to the wheel is kind of flimsy in TPU, as compared to the original. I like the looks of this design, which just covers the original parts, which will make the pads more stable. I'll have to give this one a try

My ks s16 BMS update was rough,, I got an email from ewheels telling me to update the BMS immediately because flawed firmware will make my cells go to zero rendering the battery useless, during the update it stopped twice, I had to restart,, eventually it went through and it updated to the latest BMS firmware 188 ,, I'm glad I didn't have to go through this

I picked up a brand new commander mini 50s for only 2k from a local guy selling it ...only had .9 miles! Loving it!

took like 10min to update my s22 last time

I had the same issue with the BMS 1.85 and there was only one battery pack that had a problem so I reset the BMS only on the one that had a problem. Since I had tried to downgrade the BMS to 1.82 and it didn't do it on the BMS in problem so when the reset was done and the wheel was up, I had to do the firmware 1.82 install so that the 2 BMS were at the same version. The problem with the firmware is that in the Kingsong App, it tells you that a newer version exist and you can install or cancel the firmware update. But when you use an iPhone/iPad with the SoftTuner App, you can upgrade/downgrade any of the firmware but you see that those latest versions are beta versions, so I guess you don't ever upgrade a BMS to a beta version. I did the display firmware upgrade to get the right display that I wanted, speed on top with the battery life on the bottom. With older display firmware, you would only see the battery life when the wheel stoped.

The S16 is a puzzling wheel, on the outside it looks like KS is upping their game, but after some use and disassembly, it clearly has a lot of vestiges of EUCs made 2-3+ years ago. It's like a pig with makeup. That's too bad, it seemed really promising.

king song should really make a budget version of this....shaving of the stupid pads,speakers and all the stupid bling,bling,make the lcd smaller for godsake...something like on the v122....probably they will get to 1700 usd for this...we dont need stupid stuff.uneffective things....there will be a lot of room for good pads then...

my dad is the only guy in turkey that sels euc and he says dont update the latest update it brokes the censors of the wheel

For a newer rider would you recommend the KS S16 or the Begode T4?

Wait what? Did you say it's the 1st kinngsomg that you can update the firmware from the app? Surely I heard that wrong

Learning about BMS and how the batteries are assembled, very important content to understand the manufactures and wheel. reset buttons pretty cool. I know v11s have a reset button on the BMS too. I had the pleasure to fiddle inside them.

Roger hast to make a video course for us mere mortals

Which application did you update with? softtuner or kingsong? You can reset BMS with soft tuner.

I had a gotway which I had to strip down and after seeing the crap quality and hassle of trying to get the correct replacement board I vowed to never buy a gotway again so I bought the S16P. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. I wish these wheels were Japanese or German made, Chinese engineering has always sucked and software a last minute afterthought

I had this issue with my s16 pro. I kept tueing it off and on and leaving redownload again several times and after about 5 hours the erorr code was gone and it updated just fine. My experience with kingsongs software was waful and this js my first weel... not sure J I want kingsong anymore. I lean more on inmotion as quality.

Man, when i first got my s16 pro i got a BMS error so i updated the firmware, kingsong app failed but wheel still worked. Jason recommended softtuner and that worked. Since then ive updated all the firmware several times using kingsong app and had no issues. Sucks you had to go thru all that but thanks for recording the process for us.

Again Roger for the win 🫡

I could never do any of this. Straight avoid for me.

In summary, the BMS wasn't really bricked. I guess it did not fully finished updating the BMS and the wheel was disturbed probably by turning it off/on and failed to fully reboot. There was no trade secret, Roger even mentioned that he really didn't do anything on the wheel and he just updated the firmware using a different device and the BMS got updated. It's just like updating a smartphone, sometimes it will tell you that the phone will turn on and off several times and it's perfectly normal so don't disturb the process and wait for the update to complete.

eesh... no thanks.

You guys are rock stars.

I only update firmware if my wheel is under warranty.

Another nail in the KS coffin. Mobo/batt removal seems a fair bit of work & not much fun plus this bms bricking OTA update dont inspire much confidence. KS is close to being dead to me but goodluck to others

Falcon gets a leg up after seeing this 😳.

Gotway Goop! Unfortunately these days when trying to choose a new wheel Kingsong doesn't even come to mind anymore.

yikes! I can imagine a new rider finally getting an EUC and doing a firmware update immediately and then....nightmare. That would likely be me.

Thanks for the video!

see battery pack is not wrapped.😂

Thanks for callin it out for what it is

I'm always nervous to do any firmware updates....and this is why

First!!!

How long can it go on one charge?

what's the improvement over s16, besides the battery to 50s. how that translates into divergences with the wheel? is it worth the 200€ price difference?

I was very sceptical but the falcon seems very good for most casual use cases....just a little too expensive

Thanks for the video, man. I live at the top of the 605 and I was wanting to know what the San Gabriel River trail looks like. I think I'll get me a Lynx and try it

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Very great video ! It's hard to swap road tire for knobby tire ?

Im looking to get a 16" wheel. Do you think the Falcon is better than the Commander Bull mini? I heard the mini is really fast.

That's such a cool little wheel. It's too small for my fat ass but it is really sweet looking.

What's not to like... it's a well thought out wheel, and I reckon Begode will sell a lot of them! Great video... all the familiar faces and a couple of new ones. Love you guys 🥰

This Is great video! Looks like fun. Way to go on the Falcon!

My ET Max arrives tomorrow! Thanks for all of the vids and info that you have produced over the years. I finally pulled the trigger on an upgrade. Love everything that you do. Thanks for supporting and informing the community.

Cool wheel!

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Hey Marty, way to much blade exposed, your just asking for a accident...I say this with concern for your safety brother.

Hey Marty, What's the overall conclusion about the Falcon? I'm looking for a wheel for my GF and falcon (I still can't see in shops in europe) or S16 pro seems the most possible for her. What do you think?

Is it better to get the knobby for the Falcon? Since the Falcon cannot go that fast, it may not be a good idea to get a street tire.

1200 and I am sold. I have a t4 pro and this could be my super last mile commuter

Haha, loved how Roger waited for Chris to arrive there first, before saying he would have made it on the second try 😀

I want the Falcon so badly, but my family won't let me have it eversince I mention that I wanted a euc. I had injured my back work related in 2016 and was out from walking for about 5 years, and when I finally was able to walk again and started light working moving around but couldn't stand for a long time. I was barely able to get my family to budge on me riding again on my motorsickle. Well, riding a motorsickle is a little easier since I can sit on it while riding unlike a unisickle. I told them I would get a seat for the falcon and I could ride sitting down. They wouldn't budge. I wouldn't mind not really getting it, but right meow my motorsickle got a flat, and I"m kind of on a budget so it's going to be a little whiles till I can replace my rear tire. I was thinking of getting the Falcon so I can have a backup in riding. I"m going to try to persuade my family to let me get the Falcon.